In a message dated 7/4/2001 1:06:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gwyee@r... writes:
<< I suppose that in a static unchanging world this might be true. However, as it stands, your comment doesn't seem to leave any room for possible development [ie, strengthening certain muscles, improving muscular coordination, changing technique, etc] Soubrettes can grow. And more than a few tenors began as high baritones (although I don't recall any bassos who started out as tenor). >>
gwendel,
yes, soubrettes can grow. most won't. certainly, the ones who don't sing very well are less likely to grow unless, they are spintos misguidedly imitating soubrettes which makes them spintos, not soubrettes. in the same manner, tenors who start off as baritones weren't baritones, they were tenors trying to sing baritone.
this is a difficult point for me to address as i think such catagories are ridiculous anyway. what could be more static than millions of voices being pidgeon-holed into bass, tenor, alto, soprano (and i think the fach system is just 'advanced' ridiculous. the notched blur). i personally feel that if a singer can sing all of the notes of a role and not sound stupid doing it, they should sing it if they can get away with it.
there are voices, however, who are so clearly one thing and no other that they should just stick to that. domingo started as a baritone and though he might find the very top very difficult, i think he is best suited to tenor. i actually think he'd be best off singing high baritone and low tenor but, the opera world has developed such a rigid notion of what the timbre for each fach should sound like that this makes it necessary for him to stick with tenor (though, oddly enough, the opera world is not so restrictive about bass-baritones). pavarotti, on the other hand, is more obviously a tenor. it was probably never a consideration for him to sing baritone, even when he first started. (i have no idea which of the three ranges he sang in, ramon vinay was. i think he made the right choice most of the time and that was singing whatever role made it easiest for him to cause a sunami with.)
so, in the examples i gave, a baritone flirting with 'wintersturme' or a soubrette trying 'un bel di', if these have possibilities, good for them. but, if they sound stupid singing them, they need to know and nothing will convince them faster than a tape (obviously, from where they sit, it doesn't sound stupid enough).
mike
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