Greypins@a... wrote: Greypins@a... wrote: > > i think that what a counter-tenor sings in, and it will have to be > david daniels that i speak of (not being a big listener to cts) is the same > voice as the operatic female (another voice i'm not particulary wild about). > tako and i call different things falsetto. what he calls falsetto is > probably the same as 'whistle'
Let's clarify whistle... some people consider whistle synonymous to flageolet. Others consider it the sound Mariah Carey makes, which I believe is a different register altogether (Structure of Singing has a few paragraphs on this). I don't think the oscillation looks anything like head voice or flageolet (which I think of as just an extension of the basic head mechanism). As someone who used to be able to do this, I don't think it is a very healthy mode of vocalization. I was never able to reconcile this unhealthy whistle to the rest of my voice.
I could see how the concept of flageolet could be associated with what I will for now call "supported falsetto" (SF). The idea that the folds are thinned out to allow higher frequencies would hold true for both, I think. Both are capable of reconciling with their lower registers.
So maybe unsupported falsetto (UF, or what I'd call *real* falsetto) is the analogue to "bad" whistle voice? Both are very breathy, but unfortunately I don't know the mechanism for this "bad" whistle register... Anyone?
As I mentioned before, though, I think of SF as somewhat analogous to a woman's head voice, because otherwise, what do you call the flageolet-like extension men like Randall Wong have? What would that be an analogue to?
Tako
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