I wrote:
> > opera singers are obviously expected to have BETTER culture, be that > > technique, languages, History, etc.
and Yako asked:
> You need to be really clear in your own mind what you mean when you say > "BETTER" culture. What is it "better" at? Does it touch people's hearts > more poignantly? Does it promote critical thinking? Does it allow joy to > well up in your soul? From your earlier postings on guitarists, I suspect > when you say "better", you mean "difficult" or "esoteric".
By BETTER I mean:
1. better singing technique: pop singers may have good technique or not, and generally not, since pop audiences generally don't expect them to have any technique at all and generally don't even know how to tell good from bad technique.
2. better 'languages': or better: better language skills :-) Well ( just for a change ), pop singers don't generally sing in a foreign language if they are singing THEIR music( that's what happens most often ).
3. History: pop singers don't have to do any research, since they have no roles and no commitment to the past. BTW, they generally try to represent contemporary popular culture, concern, etc.
4. ETC: etc, etc, etc :-)
BETTER and WORSE are objective categorizations, regardless of your liking a singer or musician or not. Classical music is better than pop music under that objetive perspective. Touching people's hearts is something completely subjective: something may touch your heart, but not mine, but they mean something culturally which is above our personal likes and dislikes. If you prefer McDonald's, that doesn't mean it's BETTER than French cuisine. I'm not a guitarist, but I'm touched by Malmsteen and not by Cobain or BB King. On the other hand, I think operas are a bore and histrionic, although I like Bach. Each one is going to be touched by different things, depending on their own lifestory. I know a great philosopher who listens to classical music only OR country music from anywhere in the world. Why is that? Because he grew up in the country and is touched by that kind of music! That brings back memories that most urban classical music connoisseurs don't have.
Everything you have in a museum has a cultural value of its own, although most people nowadays is not touched by what they represent. I'm a leftist but not a communist ), but to me the leftist ideal has always represented making it possible for the 'folk' to have the options the elite has, not to transform popular limitations into a value in itself! I want the poor to have the option of eating French food, not to make it acceptable to order hamburger and fries at a fancy restaurant.
> You have yet to address the fact that much of our best "classical" music > was also popular in its time.
Here we go again: popular means both appreciated by most people AND created by the 'populace'. WHENEVER THE WORD POPULAR IS USED AS OPPOSED TO CLASSICAL MUSIC, IT'S THE SECOND MEANING THAT'S BEING USED. Do you mean that pop music which is not popular ( with the first meaning ) is not pop music. What is it: UNpop music?!
Bye,
Caio Rossi
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