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From:  RRicciardi@S...
Date:  Mon Apr 10, 2000  5:15 pm
Subject:  RE: [vocalist-temporary] Support V Tension!


Karen said
"To breathe correctly I must
first *release* any tensions that have accumulated while I was singing the
phrase prior to the new breath."

Karen, I find that trying to accomplish this is very difficult (but
absolutely necessary for proper singing) - I hope it gets easier with
experience.

love the topic !!

Rick



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Mercedes [SMTP:dalila@R...]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:00 PM
> To: vocalist-temporary@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [vocalist-temporary] Support V Tension!
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Reg Boyle wrote:
>
> > At 11:51 AM 9\4\2000 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Here's my rule of thumb:
> > >
> > >If the tension is below the navel and above the thighs, it's support.
> If
> > >it's anywhere else, it's just tension. :)
> > >
> > >Karen
> >
> > Thanks Karen. I apologise if I'm wrong, but I suspect you're being
> naughty;)
> > But seriously.. doesn't that conflict with Prof Hanson's
> description
> > of the sense of retained epigastric distension and to me the more recent
>
> > addition of the side intercostal consciousness. All above the navel
> since
> > I discarded what you appear to describe, and found a new vocal horizon:)
> > Sure there are lots of methods based on sensory perceptions but I
> > never cease to be amazed at the number of performers who undertake
> > serious concert engagements with obviously defective techniques and
> > yet survive. The questions are of course, for how long, at what physical
> > cost and how much artistic compromise?
> > And should I read from the above that you have no place for
> > intercostal erection? A flaccid rib cage???
>
> The question was about *tension*. Of course you don't want flaccidity in
> the ribcage area - the epigastral and the intercostals should feel
> stretched. But there's a long distance between stretched and tense. What
> I feel when I sing correctly is a sense of "aliveness" all through the
> torso, but no actual tension - rather a "flexible tautness".
>
> Tension implies that the ribs are actually *locked*, making it impossible
> for the lungs to expand freely, or for the diaphragm to descend. I find
> it's much more productive to think in terms of optimal *posture*, and to
> totally relaxing all muscles - facial and intercostal - without actually
> collapsing (going flaccid), then *allowing* the breath to fill the vacuum,
> with the result that the muscles you mention do tauten as the lungs expand
> and the diaphragm lowers. NONE of this involves actual tension - the
> exact opposite is the objective, in fact. To breathe correctly I must
> first *release* any tensions that have accumulated while I was singing the
> phrase prior to the new breath.
>
> Karen Mercedes
> -----
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> Der in den Zweigen wohnet;
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> Ist Lohn, der reichlich lohnet.
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  Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size
343 Re: Support V Tension! Karen Mercedes   Mon  4/10/2000   3 KB
356 Re: Support V Tension! Ian Belsey   Mon  4/10/2000   2 KB
390 Support V Tension! Chris Berensen   Tue  4/11/2000   5 KB

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