> Your argument, if you will forgive the comparison, > has the same sort of > idealism that one used to find in Communism or in > Behaviourist psychology, > in that it states an unattainable position made > unattainable by some > inalterable facts of human nature.
Well, yes -- that's why it (the Porpora method) is the extreme end of the example. The more real-life model is Jennifer's approach (study privately for some years before going out and performing).
The economic argument (was that Liz?) is also a strong one. But conservatory costs exorbitant amounts of money, and gives singers the wrong tools at the wrong time (not enough technical training, and too much polishing before they are vocally equipped to use it).
Ideally, yes, you would find a teacher, study every day, and concentrate only on technique until your voice was ready. In the real world, I still maintain that you're better off saving your conservatory money and training your instrument privately, and/or finding a job and splitting your time between money-making and vocal training.
I also maintain that singers should get non-singing jobs while they are still training, for the same reason that I don't think lieder should be sung at an early age -- by going out and singing before you are technically prepared, you are only learning bad habits, how to cheat (technically speaking), and taking time and energy away from your real practicing and training.
If you get a singing job to pay the bills and pay for lessons, you are wasting your 2-3 hours of "vocal time" (the time you can use your voice each day before you get tired) on the job, when that time would be better applied to your practicing. This assumes that you are not yet at a technical point where you can sing anything correctly -- hence, a large portion of your job-singing is going to be imperfect. If you get a job doing something else, you have those 2-3 hours to spend perfecting your instrument instead.
Similarly, if young singers spend an hour each day singing through lieder songs (which were, it's true, written for the untrained voice and are easy to sing incorrectly but pleasantly -- and bloody difficult to sing with perfect technique), that's an hour they could have been spending doing their take-home vocalises to strengthen that G, or smooth out the passaggio, or any other concept that the singer's teacher happens to be working on at the moment. And if the lesson time is spent singing incorrectly but pleasantly through the easier lieder instead of concentrating on technique -- that's a waste of a teacher, in my opinion.
And to sing lieder CORRECTLY -- that is, again in my opinion, more difficult than opera. It's harder to sing musical theater "correctly" (in operatic terms) than it is to sing opera, simply because opera doesn't give you a choice. If you don't sing the A's and B's correctly in Caro nome, you'll never make it to the high E -- survival through correctness. You won't be able to sing straight through the aria for x number of months, as you practice and are corrected and guided at every note, but you'll always be on the path to technical correctness. Lieder and lighter rep make it too easy to "slum" and slip into bad habits -- you can spend two hours veering down an easy but technically off-base vocal path, which is not only a waste of time (think of those two steps down the original path you could have taken in that time), but often you have to spend extra time finding your way back. Unless, that is, you have already mastered the high pianissimo and how to sing all your consonants without messing up your vowels -- in which case you are beyond the training stage of vocal development anyway.
Plus, the nature of lieder is that the text is the most important thing to communicate, whereas in opera it is the vocal line. Since, in training, the vocal line has to come first (according to my technique-then-polish theory), it is easier for young singers to concentrate on the voice (and ONLY the voice) with Mozart and Bellini than with Schubert and Brahms. The forms demand different priorities.
Someone please tell me when I stop clarifying my position and begin ranting... I don't want to go on and on about this, but I think it's important, and is the reason why the conservatory/university system turns out so many bland, mediocre voices.
Actually, this is great, since it forces me to verbalize my thoughts to myself, and clarify my own position.
Isabelle B.
===== Isabelle Bracamonte San Francisco, CA ibracamonte@y...
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