thomas mark montgomery <thomas8@t...> wrote: thomas mark montgomery <thomas8@t...> wrote: > All countertenors are lyric and calling anyone "medium" anything is > exactly what makes vocal labels seem silly. "Medium" smacks of ego, > not vocal quality.
I don't think I'm the first person who has informally sub-classified lyrics as 'light', 'medium', 'full', 'lyrico-spinto'.
> When countertenors can sing Santuzza, Eboli, Erda and Dalila, > then we'll begin to call them dramatic.
Wow, are you mad at me for some reason? I feel like you're reading the first few sentences and then railing on me. I specifically said later in that message that there are not enough 'dramatic' sized CT out there to bother considering that as an official category. (You did that earlier today re: choral alto castrati).
Besides, to a large extent, existing voice size may be partly depended on demand. CT get most of their work doing choral and early music work, where a 'dramatic' sized voice and vibrato would be career-death. The few CTs I know of that edge toward spinto-land sang with la gran scena, a drag opera company, probably the only place in the world before 1996 large voiced CTs had any purpose in life. Maybe if composers wrote the rep, more larger CTs would come out of the woodwork.
> And as to soprano falsettists, are these people singing high Bb > and C? I haven't heard any.
Randall Wong (D6), Aris Cristofellis (F6), Arno Raunig, Terence Barber (just off the top of my head), and many, many more specialize in soprano rep. I've even heard plain old David Daniels do a Bb. Before my voice broke at age 22, I had a Eb6 myself. Here's a site that lists a bunch of male sops:
http://www.mpae.gwdg.de/~kopp/disc/index.html
I understand you are skeptical, but I'm feeling a little hurt you are so quick to negate what I say. You are hurting the reputation of a wonderful group of singers without complete information.
I know you are getting tired of this topic, as am I, but I can't sit on my bottom watching all these negative, (and sometimes untrue) things being said in a public forum, without jumping in the defend my own voice type. I am a working CT, and have studied at UC Berkeley, one of the early music scholarly centers in the world - I do know something about the history of CTs and castrati.
Tako
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