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Date sent: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:23:52 EST
Subject: Re: critical thinking Off.
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In a message dated 12/8/99 9:34:44 PM Central Standard Time,
midivox-at-ix.netcom.com writes:

<< I really can't stand those who are so phony that they go around, well
I'm so glad to
hear that, and then they just do the soap opera technigue of saying BUT your
experiences weren't real, no one should try this, I wouldn't, so neither
should you,
and then they just go on a negative tirade and ask others on the list to
join them, in
attacking you.
Drama people simply can't allow anyone to have an experience that is
different than
theirs. Singing, health conditions, only their experiences and viewpoints
are real. I
don't buy into that negaitive lifestyle.
Happy And Healthy Singing
Timothy Kelly
MidiVox >>


Here I go....where angels fear to tread....Timothy...I read your posts with
interest and admire many of the things you say & your comments, but your
response to Ms. Donnell seems rather extreme. I read her post and did not
feel that she was attacking you in any way...& yet you read it (obviously) as
an attack. I think it is important that people are cautious re: health care
issues. Research (both "scientific" and anecdotal are very important) and
adults should be free to follow whichever path provides them a feeling of
well-being. But there are charlatans out there ready to make a buck off of
anyone willing to "buy" their way back to good health. You, obviously did a
lot of reading & research & wading through material to decide which
alternative treatments sounded promising. I think most of us fall somewhere
between the two extremes of "only naturalistic methods" and "only
scientifically proven treatments". I'm not one to discount natural instincts
or "old wive's tales & folk remedies or some alternative methods", but
neither am I one to invest heavily in snake oil from any peddlar who happens
to be selling it. Certainly it is possible for one to believe in the
"scientific method" without being accused of negative thinking. And,
unfortunately, sometimes illness & disease does strike randomly....blaming a
person for being stricken with something has always seemed counterproductive
to me....yes, there are some contributing factors in some diseases or
conditions, but your statement that conditions do not happen randomly, is in
my opinion, just as negative in its own way, as you apparently felt Ms.
Donnell's comments were re: your choices of alternative treatments.
Ah....email...where things are so easily misinterpreted! Again, I value
both your & Ms. Donnell's opinion and believe there is room for different
viewpoints without feeling attacked or counterattacking. Regards, and
Season's Greetings to all listers out there! Barbara